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#1 Jul 07, 2022 6:12:PM

In tell etc. You alls know

Carl Jung acknowledged the influence of the "Four Directions," which became known as the Jungian archetypes. Before Jung, the ancients knew of the energies of the Universe.

They placed those energies in seven directions, the basic energies, archetypes, being placed in the directions of the compass. The energies of East (the Lover), the South (the Warrior), the West (the Magician), and the North (the King).

Turning in that sunwise circle and then standing in that circle of Community, that Circle represents a "Container" of strength, a "Crucible" that can hold any challenge, even the devastation of fire.

That Container created holds the energy of the the task or mystery at hand. The Community forms the outer boundary of the circle of that Container.

The Axis Mundi is the Center of that Container, created in sacred space. It is known that no man alone can hold that Center intact alone. It takes a Community.

This circle also represents the plane of our existence and the physical reality in which we live. The added dimensions, the other three directions and name their energies are also archetypes.

The energies of Above (Father Spirit), Below (Mother Earth) and Within (Eternal Being) represent a vertical axis which transects the circle at its center and represents the vertical axis, the Axis Mundi, around which the World of each Member of the Circle's experience turns.

It connects the Great Mystery of the spirit above with the Great mystery of the Earth below and where it meets the plane of our existence and experience is at the place "Within", the Eternal Being, the seventh direction.


#2 Jul 07, 2022 6:24:PM

Re: In tell etc. You alls know

I note what you say about guiding our patient's reading and taking care that he sees a good deal of his materialist friend.
But are you not being a trifle naif?
It sounds as if you supposed that argument was the way to keep him out of the Enemy's clutches.
That might have been so if he had lived a few centuries earlier.
At that time the humans still knew pretty well when a thing was proved
and when it was not; and if it was proved they really believed it.
They still connected thinking with doing and were prepared to alter their way of life as
the result of a chain of reasoning.
But what with the weekly press and other such weapons we have largely altered that.
Your man has been accustomed, ever since he was a boy, to have a dozen incompatible philosophies dancing about
together inside his head.
He doesn't think of doctrines as primarily "true" or "false", but as "academic" or "practical", "outworn" or "contemporary", "conventional" or "ruthless".
Jargon, not argument, is your best ally in keeping him from the Church.
Don't waste time trying to make him think that materialism is true!
Make him think it is strong, or stark, or courageous, that it is the philosophy of the future.
That's the sort of thing he cares about.
The trouble about argument is that it moves the whole struggle onto the Enemy's own ground.
He can argue too; whereas in really practical propaganda of the kind I am suggesting He has been shown for centuries to be greatly the inferior of Our Father Below.
By the very act of arguing, you awake the patient's reason; and once it is awake, who can foresee the result?
Even if a particular train of thought can be twisted so as to end in our favour, you will find that you have
been strengthening in your patient the fatal habit of attending to universal issues and withdrawing his attention from the stream of immediate sense experiences.
Your business is to fix his attention on the stream.
Teach him to call it "real life" and don't let him ask what he means by "real".
Remember, he is not, like you, a pure spirit.
Never having been a human (Oh that abominable advantage of the Enemy's!) you don't realise how enslaved they are to the pressure of the ordinary.
Thanks to processes which we set at work in them centuries ago, they find it all but impossible to believe in the unfamiliar while the familiar is before their eyes.
Keep pressing home on him the ordinariness of things.
Above all, do not attempt to use science (I mean, the real sciences) as a defence against Christianity.
They will positively encourage him to think about realities he can't touch and see.
There have been sad cases among the modern physicists.
If he must dabble in science, keep him on economics and sociology; don't let him get away from that invaluable "real life".
But the best of all is to let him read no science but to give him a grand general idea that he knows it all and that everything he happens to have picked up in casual talk and reading is "the results of modem investigation".
Do remember you are there to fuddle him. From the way some of you young fiends talk, anyone would suppose it was our job to teach!
Your affectionate uncle

-CS Lewis, The Screwtape Letters


#3 Jul 07, 2022 10:15:PM

Re: In tell etc. You alls know

The minutest particle of material substance, which cannot be further divided, should be known by the name paramanu. (~10^-42m)

The maximum diameter of the universe as a whole is the largest size possible and is the reciprocal of the paramanu.
(Point, Oroboros)

Beyond these two limits is the prakriti, which is the source of all things. (Vacuum fluctuation)

Two paramanus make one anu, and it is in the combination that the mind creates the illusion of motion.

Three anus constitute a trasarenu.

Three trasarenus is know as a truti.

One hundred trutis compose a vedha. (Gluth's Inflation)

Three vedhas make a lava.

Three lavas is a nimesa which is the twinkling of an eye (0.003 sec)

Three nimesas compose a kshana, which is a moment (0.03 sec)

The average reaction time runs 1/4th to 1/5th sec.

The average attention span runs about 90min.

One day (12hr @ equinox) consists of four yamas of three hours apiece, as does the night.

15 days and nights constitute a fortnight.

Two fortnights make one month, which is equal to one day and night of the Pitrs or Manes who dwell closest to our own plane of being. (demons, etc.)

Two months make a ritu, which is a season.

Three ritus equal one ayana, which is southerly then northerly by turns according to the sun.

Two ayanas equal one year, which is a day to the gods.
The four yugas (ages) are
1 satya; 4,800 celestial years or 1,728,000 human years
2 treta; 3,600 celestial years or 1,296,000 human years
3 dwapara; 2,400 celestial years or 864,000 human years
4 kali; 1,200 celestial years or 432,000 human years (we are here)
1 celestial years = 360 human years

Beyond the three worlds is the abode of Brahma (Story, Campaign, etc.)
To the Brahma 1000 cycles of the four yugas are a day, and 1000 cycles a night, which makes a kalpa.

Each existence is allotted 100 units of the scale of its sphere and is experienced relatively equally.
Ergo a dog with a given span of 20 years experiences its life five times faster than a human.
Human = 100 years, 100\20 = 5
You leave the house for work.
9 hours later you return home.
The dog freaks.
9 hours * 5 = 45 hours
To the dog it seems like you're gone for almost two full days.

Two parardhas equal the Brahmas span, which is equal to the twinkling of MY eye for I am the all-embracing, immutable, beinningless soul of the universe.
When I am everywhere, where then shall I move?
When I am existence eternal, where then is the face of time?

White blood cells, 13 day life span.
Red blood cells, 120 days.
Liver cells 1.5 years.
Nerve cells are not replaced by mitosis, so 100 years.
The sun is given about 10 billion human years; a human span of 100 years is like a TV commercial (a touch over 30 sec) to the sun.
It's all relative.


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